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[Mattk50]

remember folks balancing can be done by increasing and decreasing cost, not just hard nerfing something thats fun.

[TaLaR]

In the end while Hyperion is very powerful, what makes it truly overpowered is AIs inability to handle it as an opponent - like raising omni shields a bit too late to block first shot, and not keeping frontal 360 ones up as long as possible after it has seen Hyperion on battlefield. It can't seriously expect to raise them while Hyperion is closing in. Though frontal and less than 360 ones are as good as dead, no matter what they do...

[RSS_Ornel]

remember folks balancing can be done by increasing and decreasing cost, not just hard nerfing something thats fun.

please, 5 second regen for the teleport is just absurd as there is no tactics or skill involved
just
1 zoom in zoom out
2 repeat
otherwise the hyperion is fine just a little under priced

[moontan]

remember folks balancing can be done by increasing and decreasing cost, not just hard nerfing something thats fun.

please, 5 second regen for the teleport is just absurd as there is no tactics or skill involved
just
1 zoom in zoom out
2 repeat
otherwise the hyperion is fine just a little under priced

it's great fun but way overpowered at the moment.

once every 5 seconds is way too much.

possible nerfs:

- randomize the location where the ship reappears, to some degree
- make the distance shorter
- make the charge up time for warp much longer.

[Aratoop]

Look,as was with the tachyon lance, the hyperion will be EXTREMELY RARE so please stop complaining.

[Jonlissla]

Look,as was with the tachyon lance, the hyperion will be EXTREMELY RARE so please stop complaining.

No excuse, the game should be balanced throughout the entire game. As it is now, the Hyperion is a bit too much, just like the Tachyon Lance was in the previous versions.

[LazyWizard]

The Hyperion is likely to see a fleet point cost increase soon - power-wise, it's on par with a cruiser, which is how it's supposed to be - but the fleet point cost doesn't reflect that.

[moontan]

it overpowers the whole battlefield, both strategically and tactically.

strategically because it can warp its way from beacon to beacon quite easily.

and tactically because of the long range it can warp, the precision where it warps and how often it can do it.

even at a quarter of a million credits it would still be a steal! 

[RSS_Ornel]

A cheap counter is 2 omens or the 2 phase ships with the emp,

[TaLaR]

A cheap counter is 2 omens or the 2 phase ships with the emp,

I don't think even  AI-piloted default configuration will have problems with this. Even if it does something stupid enough to eat a lot of emp damage, you can't disable teleporter(or ship systems in general, except burn drive & maneuvering jets which depend on engine).

[RSS_Ornel]

if it cant fire it does no damage and the omens shields are almost as good. so you can finish it very quickly with 4 pulse lasers and 2 sabots

[DJ Die]

Look,as was with the tachyon lance, the hyperion will be EXTREMELY RARE so please stop complaining.

No excuse, the game should be balanced throughout the entire game. As it is now, the Hyperion is a bit too much, just like the Tachyon Lance was in the previous versions.

except this is a single player game...that means we have other means of balancing than just stat wise...you can just make the ship/weapon extremely expensive or hard to get etc.
if its possible to get several hyperions if players chooses to spend a lot of time getting them what should stop him? unfairness to other players? hardly.....

[bluntfang]

It is a one player game.  I really find the angst amusing, if you don't like the ship, take 10 seconds and nerf it.

Personally the hyperion is tons of fun to play with. If they were as common as the hound it might be an issue. As it stands, it is only an issue if you reload every time you lose it, in which case, it is your own fault if it "dominates" your game.

[RSS_Ornel]

but it is op even in ai hands in a one on one situation so if you see a fleet with one
Run away as fast as your engines can take you

[K-64]

That's why you don't take it on one on one. Every ship has a weakness, the Hyperion's happens to be enemy support