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Arcagnello

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Medusa best "Frigade"?
« on: November 13, 2019, 12:12:39 PM »

Hello everyone ! I've been playing this game for three days straight and I can't stop, it's that good!

I am on my first campaign and while I've been tempted to recover huge capital ships I decided to remain thoroughly high tech, only using ships of the latter category since they really focus on what I like most: a both agile and elite force to break down large sheathes of enemy from both close and afar, with minimal to no losses.

The most present ship in my fleet is what all this thread is about. I love my Medusa to bits and usually deploy all 8 of them into battles since they're just so flexible. So here's a list of what I like:

1) It's so fast for a Destroyer that it's basically a frigade, making it able to both stay engaged and retreat from any enemy it faces. The teleport also really helps

2) it's got a lot of turrets making it ideal for tracking the enemy and shooting it accurately

3) It can also be a very potent escort to larger, slower ship if you decide to refit it with anti-fighter/bomber/missile lasers

4)It can be modified to either be a close range finisher with Ions and Blasters or a relentless long range harasser with long range lasers. I have yet to try going crazy and installing a modspec to try giving one a fighter bay to get a very easy to retreat carrier tough.

The high deployment cost and combat readiness reductions can and will drive people away from it (combined with how utterly fragile it can be if you get a bit too confident) but fighting fleets double your size, butchering all enemy frigades, destroyers and even cruisers to then swiftly retreating and finishing the rest off the second assault with no losses whatsoever feels good.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2019, 12:19:08 PM »

It's a destroyer.  ;)

Personally I'm on the Hammerhead love train for it's ridiculous ability to put down cruiser levels of ballistic fire-power.

That said, my love for the sunder has recently bloomed as the 'basic infantry' of capital ship fights. 1 or 2 can't do much work, but 4 or more WILL kill capital ships and anything lesser with their overwhelming beam power. HIL and two gravitons for life.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2019, 12:26:15 PM »

I did consider the hammerhead but it's way too slow for my liking. It sure packs a punch but you either aim it at things slower than itself or you'll just have it chase things for the entire game. The Medusa on the other hand is built to murder everything covering the flanks of big ships and then pile on them from all angles.

P.S: It is a Destroyer, but only because of the name. Some frigades have better armor :P
« Last Edit: November 13, 2019, 12:33:26 PM by Arcagnello »
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2019, 12:49:52 PM »

I like the Medusa a lot for hunting frigates and destroyers! Its a bit weak to interceptors because of its narrow shield and poor armor - probably the main weakness imo - but good in ship combat. AI does pretty well with it too, at least imo.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2019, 02:58:46 PM »

Well, Falcon(P) is the best vanilla DE... So, not entirely pointless comparison.
But Medusa is too slow to be the best frigate, plus Afflictor exists.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2019, 10:58:32 PM »

Well, Falcon(P) is the best vanilla DE... So, not entirely pointless comparison.
But Medusa is too slow to be the best frigate, plus Afflictor exists.

The falcon is a cruiser.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2019, 11:15:37 PM »

The falcon is a cruiser.

And yet it's better at being a DE than any actual vanilla DE. It has 11 Burn and in-combat speed similar to DEs (including ship system) combined with superior firepower. Not needing the rare ITU is also an important advantage in campaign as mid-early player ship. Much more accessible at black markets than a Medusa too.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2019, 03:47:53 AM »

Hi

What is a DE and an ITU ?
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2019, 04:23:06 AM »

DEstroyer and Integrated Targeting Unit.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2019, 05:15:49 AM »

I like the Medusa a lot for hunting frigates and destroyers! Its a bit weak to interceptors because of its narrow shield and poor armor - probably the main weakness imo - but good in ship combat. AI does pretty well with it too, at least imo.

It's funny you mention that since I used to run front shield conversion more on them (240 deg shield is nice) before I had enough carrier support to properly prevent that!

« Last Edit: November 14, 2019, 05:25:20 AM by Arcagnello »
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2019, 05:19:55 AM »

The falcon is a cruiser.

And yet it's better at being a DE than any actual vanilla DE. It has 11 Burn and in-combat speed similar to DEs (including ship system) combined with superior firepower. Not needing the rare ITU is also an important advantage in campaign as mid-early player ship. Much more accessible at black markets than a Medusa too.

What deploy cost does it have out of curiosity? I might consider it in my next campaign!

I also like the Medusa because it kind of prevents the AI from getting into trouble it can't get out of thanks to literally teleporting away from it.

Also yeah, I kind of got lucky to get the Medusa blueprints at a research facility allowing me to litterally have 10 of them in battle at the same time, all with a close range focus using dual miniguns, dual Ions and dual Blasters; with enough space for an efficiency overhaul mod to boot!
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2019, 06:07:09 AM »

The falcon is a cruiser.

And yet it's better at being a DE than any actual vanilla DE. It has 11 Burn and in-combat speed similar to DEs (including ship system) combined with superior firepower. Not needing the rare ITU is also an important advantage in campaign as mid-early player ship. Much more accessible at black markets than a Medusa too.

What deploy cost does it have out of curiosity? I might consider it in my next campaign!

I also like the Medusa because it kind of prevents the AI from getting into trouble it can't get out of thanks to literally teleporting away from it.

Also yeah, I kind of got lucky to get the Medusa blueprints at a research facility allowing me to litterally have 10 of them in battle at the same time, all with a close range focus using dual miniguns, dual Ions and dual Blasters; with enough space for an efficiency overhaul mod to boot!

15 same as normal Falcon. A few more DP spent on player ship is nothing. They are not particularly good as AI ships, unless you just want a missile spammer (campaign is not tournament, being able to kill only few enemies till you run out of ammo is not good enough). Player build uses ballistics + reapers/annihilators as finishers, so ammo lasts much longer.

Not too fond of AI Medusas - AI fails to exploit like 90% of skimmer's potential. In comparison, a Hammerhead simply activating AAF on cooldown is close enough to correct usage of system.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2019, 06:15:11 AM »

I have become quite fond of the Medusa AI to be perfectly honest with you. Skimmer spam allows it to either close the distance immediately or swiftly retreat if the flux level gets too high after being engaged a while. Sure it could only use Skimmer to get out of engagements and in return be more aggressive to maximize it's attack potential but I'm pretty happy with it nonetheless.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2019, 08:08:45 AM »

The medusa is not a frigate. The falcon (pirate falcon or normal falcon) is not a destroyer. They are both ships which are useful but I don't see the use of calling them something they are not. Otherwise you might as well claim that the Conquest is the best cruiser. What's the point? Only the pirate falcon has burn 11. The normal falcon has 9.
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Re: Medusa best "Frigade"?
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2019, 09:23:13 AM »

I particularly enjoy the Sunder... Once I swapped the medium and small mounts from energy to ballistic or visa versa :P
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