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Author Topic: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1  (Read 42535 times)

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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2019, 05:29:31 AM »

The issue for me, personally, as a modder is that I want to control whether someone adds infringing content to my mod in such a way that I could be mistaken for the infringing party. I don't care if an infringing mod exists, I care that it doesn't make trouble for me. I and many other people said that before, your unwillingness and/or inability to read and understand it isn't anyone else's problem.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2019, 05:43:53 AM »

The issue for me, personally, as a modder is that I want to control whether someone adds infringing content to my mod in such a way that I could be mistaken for the infringing party. I don't care if an infringing mod exists, I care that it doesn't make trouble for me. I and many other people said that before, your inability to read and understand it isn't anyone else's problem.

See, you had a perfectly good ground to stand on to win people over because what you said is very understandable, but you just blew that all up by slinging personal insults. You gotta calm down. Not everything revolves around you, I don't even know who you are. All I ever did was point out some of the clownish comments like:

It wouldn’t be a big deal if your portraits weren’t in violation of copyright laws.

I have some semblance of common courtesy to redact the name. You're welcome.

Anyway, I actually agree with you. You edit someone else's mod in any shape or form, and if the original author doen't like it then it would be fair to ask it to be taken down/altered. Two comments I want to make though:

1) The original author for this portrait pack is nowhere to be seen so this whole ridiculously clownish argument about copyright laws make everybody involved look juvenile at best
2) It isn't exactly going to be all sunshine and rainbows when people start throwing insults and turn this into a flame war.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2019, 05:54:02 AM »

I'm not angry; I don't actually care if I 'win people over', especially not you. The argument was resolved before some newbie showed up and decided to claim something that wasn't true in order to start an argument. You're assisting that, which makes your net contribution negative.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2019, 07:52:48 AM »

For what it's worth, Soren, I appreciate the mod even if I don't intend to use it in a serious game! That's a loooooooooooooooooooooooootta anime waifus you've collected. :P
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2019, 08:00:30 AM »

I can't tell if you're being facetious, but it's not my mod. I don't particularly like it, but I don't think it should be removed. The original disagreement was about it adding portraits to mod factions, which is kind of uncool.

Then some newbie decided to start the argument back up by randomly insulting people.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2019, 11:31:19 AM »

Whoops, my mistake there, yeah. I realized shortly after posting, haha. No matter!
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2019, 03:03:40 PM »

I'm not angry; I don't actually care if I 'win people over', especially not you. The argument was resolved before some newbie showed up and decided to claim something that wasn't true in order to start an argument. You're assisting that, which makes your net contribution negative.

1) I have been playing Star Sector longer than you, so I find the use of "newbie" puzzling

2) Everything I wrote is correct - there is nothing unlawful about this mod. The person who said so was making a childish attempt to censor something he doesn't like. You are now making an equally childish attempt to circle the wagons and pretend he didn't do anything wrong.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2019, 03:10:08 PM »

You do realize that all you may achieve here is to manage to get this mod closed too, do you?
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2019, 03:31:07 PM »

You do realize that all you may achieve here is to manage to get this mod closed too, do you?

Why do you deflect and shift blame?
An old member of the community tried to scare away a fledgeling modder with threats that his 100% fair-usage of anime pictures in his mod is totes illegal.
This kind of behavior should be called out whenever it's attempted - it's awful and damaging to the modding community.
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Re: [0.8.1a] Degenerate Portrait Pack v1.1
« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2019, 03:44:48 PM »

Locking this for now.

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