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Palladin

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Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« on: August 09, 2017, 04:51:54 PM »

So I have a decent fleet now but MAN does it take a crap load of fuel and supplies. It's like work trying to get enough credits to keep my fleet supplied. There has to be a better way to do this.

Any of you guys any ideas you can throw at me to help me supplement my fleet costs?

It sure would be nice if I could take over,build some kind of station jsut to keep my fleet supplied.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 05:11:08 PM »

As you grow larger, yes, logistics becomes A Thing™. So, as in real life, don't take your battleships when you're doing survey missions or fetch quests. Store your most cumbersome heavies and only bring them out if you're going in for a bounty that will require all hands on deck.

You can't always know, of course, so that's the risk you take but you save a huge amount of fuel/supplies if you're judicious with what ships you really need versus those you don't.

Late game, I take frigate fleets to explore the outer reaches. Nothing I can't stand to lose but high burn drives, low fuel costs, and a single Dram gets me just about anywhere I need to go.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 06:07:29 PM »

I guess I can take my  phase frigs and destroyers. They will be enough protection against most stuff.

I bought a storage space in a station but I have not figured out how to store ships yet.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2017, 06:21:38 PM »

Didn't even know you could >.< I assume what you would do is go to the sell tab then hit the storage tab (instead of selling to the military, civs, or pirates) then hit "sell"? Idk not near the PC at the moment >.<
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2017, 08:03:49 PM »

don't take your battleships when you're doing survey missions or fetch quests. Store your most cumbersome heavies and only bring them out if you're going in for a bounty that will require all hands on deck.


How do you store a ship?
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2017, 09:09:37 PM »

Just like what you Sooner thought, go to the sell tab, and click on the "storage" icon. should say transfer or store instead of sell, so you know you aren't about to sell your ship.

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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2017, 07:19:56 AM »

If all you want to do outside of core worlds is explore and avoid combat, it makes sense to use frigates or similarly small fleet.  Maybe bring a few bigger ships that can hold stuff in case you find something big like a derelict capital or abandoned stations.

If you want to hunt endgame bounties or farm Remnants, you do need to bring your big combat fleet and it will cost you.  Hopefully, the pay will be worth it.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2017, 02:56:29 PM »

Just like what you Sooner thought, go to the sell tab, and click on the "storage" icon. should say transfer or store instead of sell, so you know you aren't about to sell your ship.


Update fleet composition as of Aug-11-17 -  fleet supply 2.8/day -- Max burn is 17 at 32 fuel/1.7LY -- This seems reasonable to me
AWESOME my fleet is so economical now with just
1 Harbinger Phase destroyer
2 Medusa Destroyer
2 Afflictor phase frig
2 Shade phase assault frig
1 Wolf(P) attack frig
2x Lasher frig (thinking to add several more as PDs)
1x Gunship(tough little SOB)
1x Shepard drone tender
1x Mule - Flag ship with operations center mod. Always gets a couple of screening point deff lasher as escorts. near use this group as a main battle group. It does sometimes assist though.

This is my walk about fleet. The main battle fleet I docked for the time being so I can chase down more pirates that can out run my larger fleet.
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FreedomFighter

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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2017, 11:18:08 PM »

Dang. 4 Phase ship? I'm crying for your supply drain per day. They are bloody expensive to maintenance but worth it.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2017, 10:34:49 AM »

Those 2 reductions on fleet upkeep/fuel is the best 8 points I've ever spent lol
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Palladin

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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2017, 04:57:18 PM »

Dang. 4 Phase ship? I'm crying for your supply drain per day. They are bloody expensive to maintenance but worth it.

Both the shade and afflictor can take down mos any destroyer alone. They don't have any point deff though so you have to pair them with point deff. I use Lasher for point deff screening.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2017, 05:03:42 PM »

Why would Shade need PD? It's EMP system also act as PD and has short cooldown. I like to use Shade more than Afflictor because of that alone. Smaller profile too.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2017, 05:47:25 PM »

Why would Shade need PD? It's EMP system also act as PD and has short cooldown. I like to use Shade more than Afflictor because of that alone. Smaller profile too.

You never seen an afflictor use: this is so sweet to watch.
1x IR pulse laser
2x ion cannon(EMP)
2x Antimatter blasters.

these buggers can insta pop most frigs. and make fairly short work of destroyers.

I put all my phase ships in the thick of battle so they can run interference as they phase about giving the other ships the time they need to thin things out.

Also
75% of my fleet is from salvage. I do not see any point in running station to station looking for a ship to buy when the galaxy gives them for free. I restore all my salvaged ships(damn the cost) I am to lazy to go looking for ships to buy.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2017, 07:14:50 PM »

Afflictor usage getting less and less when both me and enemy fleet starting to deploy half of fleet as capital. Also, it is hopeless when fighter wing just camp out for you. Once your flux run out then you are doom. At lease with Shade EMP, it fry every missile and fighter around it. Even if the AM and Reaper ran out, it still has EMP to be useful to the fleet. Once i got Shade, i sold all of my Afflictor. High-tech fleet pretty much health hazard for lightly armored Phase ship due to beam hit you with perfect accuracy. Capital especially Paragon eat Afflictor alive and no way AM can get pass Fortress shield. Onslaugh for some reason, love to has Devastator cannon at their rare, so even if you get behind them, it instant gib you the moment you come out of phase. Shade get more use to me when Astral becoming norm to enemy fleet. 6 Wings of fighters? Say no more since Shade can fry all of them in the same time. Also, it is sadistic to perma-stun some ship with it.
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Re: Supplies and Fuel ohhhh my
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2017, 05:50:18 AM »

Afflictor usage getting less and less when both me and enemy fleet starting to deploy half of fleet as capital. Also, it is hopeless when fighter wing just camp out for you. Once your flux run out then you are doom. At lease with Shade EMP, it fry every missile and fighter around it. Even if the AM and Reaper ran out, it still has EMP to be useful to the fleet. Once i got Shade, i sold all of my Afflictor. High-tech fleet pretty much health hazard for lightly armored Phase ship due to beam hit you with perfect accuracy. Capital especially Paragon eat Afflictor alive and no way AM can get pass Fortress shield. Onslaugh for some reason, love to has Devastator cannon at their rare, so even if you get behind them, it instant gib you the moment you come out of phase. Shade get more use to me when Astral becoming norm to enemy fleet. 6 Wings of fighters? Say no more since Shade can fry all of them in the same time. Also, it is sadistic to perma-stun some ship with it.

I always try to deploy my phase ships with another ship with some anti fighter missiles. This has worked pretty good so far.
I have not yet ventured into the capital ship area yet. All the pirate bounties now have capital ships and just by looking at the specs on them they have enough guns to decimate my fleet before my ships even get into fire range. The only way I have seen for me to get into the capital ship business is to take a faction commision.
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