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Author Topic: The Legion-class Battlecarrier has been fully revealed! (Alex's Twitter)  (Read 43889 times)

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Everybody's calling this bigger Dominator, but to me it looks more akin to a battlecruiser-sized Enforcer, what with I-think-they-are wide turret arcs, ballistics/missiles combo and fighters (which aren't straight-forward only weapon and add to it's all around firepower, not only frontal). It does have some sweet unprotected stern you can abuse.

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Well there ain't no denying the Enforcer is an effective ship as well. So I guess the design doctrine behind the Legion is all about "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" PLUS fighters! :D
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"So, here's our frigate. Good lookin', eh? Give it bigger guns."
"So, here's our destroyer. Good lookin', eh? Give it more guns, bigger guns."
"So, here's our cruiser. Good lookin', eh? Give it... FIGHTERS!"
To be honest though, if fighters were mainly for escorting it it would be immensely good at frigate and destroyer bashing. Bombers give huge striking potential, while most other fighters will wreck shields, and on top of that unless they have good point defence getting rid of them will be a pain in the neck. AND it has GUNS! I'll have to wait until I see reworked fighters in action, but this could be seal-clubbing: the ship.
Hmm, actually using smaller ships (fighters) to make your big ship look bigger is very Mastery-like take on fighters, methinks.

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5x Harpoon Pods, 5x Annihilator Pods, or 5x Sabot Pods.
Expanded Missile Racks.
4 Trident Wings.
Burn Drive.
83 OP more to spend on whatever fits your fancy.

Remember the gif of the Gryphon deleting everything?
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:: Shrug :: Its a capital - that kind of firepower is nice, but not unexpected. I honestly see a mainly kinetic loadout to drop shields + strike fighters for HE being nastier. Has more longevity too.
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Everybody's calling this bigger Dominator, but to me it looks more akin to a battlecruiser-sized Enforcer
it is very close to Dominator in stats though: 2 large ballistic mounts (same as Dominator), 5 medium composite (Dominator has 3 missile and 2 ballistic), 8 small ballistic around the edges (vs 9), 1.0 shield (same), 180° frontshield (vs 150°), 1500 armor (same), 500 flux dissipation (vs 450), 30 speed (same), Burn Drive (same).

aside from the flight decks, i think the only big(ish) differences are 20% higher flux capacity, 4k stronger hull, and all mounts being turrets -- but likely still with strong frontal firepower focus and vulnerable rear.
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On closer inspection it would appear that the Pilums adjacent to the Vulcans aren't set at the same angle. The one on the left appears to be slightly more angled than the right one...or maybe I'm just seeing things.
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Hey, good catch - fixed.
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I didn't say it isn't similar to Dominator, it's just its design is more like that of an Enforcer (but big) than Dominator.
The rear is obviously vulnerable, I even doubt that sides are covered by more than one composite per side (and small mounts, but it's obviously not enough).

About fighters... Hmm... Fourth ones seem to have ion cannons on them, but I can't see anything else. First ones look like they have heavy ion blasters (which is impossible, so my bet is on new energy weapon). Second ones look as if somebody tried to make tank fighters. I guess that first are interceptors, second are general purpose and fourth ones are support-focused (possibly deleting shields and then disabling weapons).

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I didn't say it isn't similar to Dominator, it's just its design is more like that of an Enforcer (but big) than Dominator.
The rear is obviously vulnerable, I even doubt that sides are covered by more than one composite per side (and small mounts, but it's obviously not enough).

About fighters... Hmm... Fourth ones seem to have ion cannons on them, but I can't see anything else. First ones look like they have heavy ion blasters (which is impossible, so my bet is on new energy weapon). Second ones look as if somebody tried to make tank fighters. I guess that first are interceptors, second are general purpose and fourth ones are support-focused (possibly deleting shields and then disabling weapons).
First ones are Claw interceptors, armed with ion cannons, I think. Second look like some kind of bomber, though they could also be heavy fighters or escorts. Third are obviously Tridents, fourth I think are Khopesh rocket bombers, probably firing Annihilator rockets.
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A wing of 5 speedy interceptors with ion cannons sounds hellacious for ships that do not have 360 shields! Combine them with shield busting Broadswords (or similar) and you've got a nasty combo. Thunders already have ion cannons but yeah, there is only two of'em per wing...

Are Piranhas still ~15 OP? If so I can't see the two 10 OP fighters on display being bombers.

A Talon wing is still 0 OP yeah? Meaning it's a free mount on any ship with a flight deck? Did Talons get the PD jamming flares to boot?
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Are Piranhas still ~15 OP? If so I can't see the two 10 OP fighters on display being bombers.

10 OP iirc, maybe 12 but I think 10.

A Talon wing is still 0 OP yeah? Meaning it's a free mount on any ship with a flight deck? Did Talons get the PD jamming flares to boot?

Yeah and no, no flares. That'd be nuts! Those are so good.

Talons did get Swarmers, though, so they're pretty decent in terms of damage. I mean, you still get what you pay for, but at least it's not just 1 vulcan per craft.
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Talons did get Swarmers, though
Ooo, that'll actually make them much more appealing. 4 swarmers is nothing to sneeze at. In 0.7 Talons are pretty much a joke, looks like in 0.8 they'll be decently effective. I remember the bit where you mentioned that you have the difficult choice between, say, a Broadsword wing or 8 extra OP AND a free Talon wing, and you already buffed their armour (as far as I remember). 8 extra OP and 4 somewhat armoured fighters with Vulcans and Swarmers sounds like a sweet deal.
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5x Harpoon Pods, 5x Annihilator Pods, or 5x Sabot Pods.
Expanded Missile Racks.
4 Trident Wings.
Burn Drive.
83 OP more to spend on whatever fits your fancy.

EEEEVVIIILLLLLLL!!!!



Remember the gif of the Gryphon deleting everything?

This sounds fun. Someone hit me up with this gif. XD
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AxleMC131

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Talons did get Swarmers, though, so they're pretty decent in terms of damage. I mean, you still get what you pay for, but at least it's not just 1 vulcan per craft.

Oh damn. Are Talons about the become less of an annoyance and more of an actual danger?
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