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Title: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Gothars on September 28, 2012, 09:14:42 AM
Here's the Kickstarter :
 (http://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/177/142/2730a343e83dc79ee26223d749c43675_large.jpg?1348572437) (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mostwanted/nexus-2-the-gods-awaken?ref=recently_launched)

Since there is a bit too much talking at the beginning, here's an old engine demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZQEvg1V0Y#t=2m02s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZQEvg1V0Y#t=2m02s)


And if you you don't know Nexus...
You like space games? You like big, hulking cruisers lumbering through space and pounding away at each other, ripping their hulls to shreds? Nimble frigates, send out to stealthy close in to an enemy's vulnerable rear? You like swarms of fighters maneuvering alongside them, ready  to dash into dogfights at your order?  You like to play tales of dauntless space adventuring, while acquiring parts to customize and upgrade your fleet? You want all that packed into an epic story?

All that was Nexus, and I believe Nexus 2 can be more that that! This is the closest we got to a modern, high profile space game in years! And as long as Homeworld 3 doesn't happen it might be years until another game like this comes along. This must happen!

(http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/mostwanted/nexus-2-the-gods-awaken/minichart.png) (http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/mostwanted/nexus-2-the-gods-awaken)
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Aleskander on September 28, 2012, 09:28:09 AM
I though that a sequel to TJI was cancelled/never imagined?
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Upgradecap on September 28, 2012, 09:28:40 AM
Now this is really a tricky one. Should i invest m money into this game, or project eternity? tbh, i never played nexus 1, so i don't exactly know what it's like. :D
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Gothars on September 28, 2012, 09:42:23 AM
Now this is really a tricky one. Should i invest m money into this game, or project eternity? tbh, i never played nexus 1, so i don't exactly know what it's like. :D

Well, Eternity will happen anyway, Nexus 2 really needs help right now. I'll pledge for both. You could try out Nexus for 10$ on steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/6420/ (http://store.steampowered.com/app/6420/) It was a brilliant game, but with some shortcomings in initial accessibility. 

I though that a sequel to TJI was cancelled/never imagined?

The initial sequel about 6 years ago was canceled due to the usual publisher concerns.Then there was a a campaign on some never-heard-before crowd funding site some time ago, that nobody even noticed until it was too late.

Now this might be the last attempt, I got my fingers crossed...
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: PCCL on September 28, 2012, 09:47:10 PM
damn......

Nexus was the game for me. The first space game I played. Tried the demo and had to hunt it down over the course of more than a whole year (back when I lived in China and steam was obscure as heck....)

I will be backing this with a passion


Now how does this work? I pay them and if they reach their goal this thing happens? What if they don't reach the goal? I get my money back right?

(first time considering kickstarters..... dk the ground rules XD)
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: mercy on September 29, 2012, 01:05:56 AM
damn......

Nexus was the game for me. The first space game I played. Tried the demo and had to hunt it down over the course of more than a whole year (back when I lived in China and steam was obscure as heck....)

I will be backing this with a passion


Now how does this work? I pay them and if they reach their goal this thing happens? What if they don't reach the goal? I get my money back right?


You get your money back if they don't reach 650K.

Best tactical 3D space fleet battle game ever! Excellent story, superb special effects, gorgeous battleships. Believable NPC-s. Mysterious Asteroid fields. There is space commandos, they go on exciting missions,  but the best part is the excellent depiction of large ship battles. Not one studio managed to create anything that comes close to NEXUS: Jupiter Incident!
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: BillyRueben on September 29, 2012, 05:49:09 AM
/pledged

I played Nexus: Jupiter Incident very briefly (the tutorial missions), but I love space tactical games, so sign me up.
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: DJ Die on September 30, 2012, 05:58:09 AM
well they got 25USD from me i really love N1 and i really hope N2 will happen....
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: hadesian on September 30, 2012, 10:33:19 AM
I would pledge the moment I get a bit more money.
Sadly it looks like they won't make it DX
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: PCCL on October 01, 2012, 07:38:08 PM
such a shame.......
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Thana on October 02, 2012, 06:12:55 AM
I've spent too much on Kickstarter already, but this one really tantalises me...

Nexus was the last game of its genre to date, as far as I know. And despite lacking some polish, overall it was very good.
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Temjin on October 04, 2012, 08:14:57 AM
I'd love to back this, but lack of a Mac option is a deal-killer for me. If it gets to the point where they make the stretch goal to make a Mac version, I'd gladly do it.
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Upgradecap on October 04, 2012, 08:27:51 AM
I'd love to back this, but lack of a Mac option is a deal-killer for me. If it gets to the point where they make the stretch goal to make a Mac version, I'd gladly do it.

They probably won't even make their main goal. Unless some rich guy decides to dump his savings into the game.
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Thaago on October 04, 2012, 08:34:22 AM
They actually announced that mac is now included in their main goal! Doesn't help me very much as I'm a linux player, but still. Cool project.
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: DJ Die on October 05, 2012, 12:02:20 AM

They probably won't even make their main goal. Unless some rich guy decides to dump his savings into the game.
i wish i was a rich guy...id gladly give them my savings...too bad im not Bill Gates ;D
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Aleskander on October 05, 2012, 12:06:25 PM
Bill gates could personally fund this thing, god knows how many times over
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Catra on October 05, 2012, 12:17:11 PM
if only they jumped onto the bandwagon sooner  :'(
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Upgradecap on October 05, 2012, 12:22:24 PM
How come stupid board games that we have a million times over get funded, but a classical masterpiece like this that rivals Mona Lisa gets thrown into the bin. :'(
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: arcibalde on October 05, 2012, 02:29:46 PM
Because 99% of people is stupid. They should put Nexus 2 Gandnam style and they would be 1000000x founded... it's just sad... -.-


Oh and yes, i'm not telling that that song sucks or anything...
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Gothars on October 05, 2012, 04:50:50 PM
Well, the campaign is pretty awkward. I'm sure they could do much better if 1) they would not start their video with some bad acting and 2) they would not expect everyone to have played Nexus 1. The campaign really seems to be addressing Nexus 1 players, and there are just not enough of those.
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: Upgradecap on October 05, 2012, 04:56:20 PM
The game looks like it has huge potential, but sadly does not look like it's not gonna make it. they should've learned from their previous campaign :/
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: TJJ on October 11, 2012, 03:03:40 PM
Backed.

You never know, it might still make it - they've just got a newsletter from gamigo dedicated to the kickstarter.

Now if we could just get TB to mention the kickstarter....
I wonder if the past Starfarer coverage has granted Alex any privileged access to TB.
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: mercy on October 12, 2012, 11:07:54 AM
I got insider info on this project tied into Nexus 1. Will post here after 15 days.
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: PCCL on October 20, 2012, 10:53:31 PM
huh... so Totalbiscuit did a video on these guys just today....

Let's hope for the best...
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: mercy on October 28, 2012, 04:36:17 AM
Oh, its time! Finally, i can talk. :D

The ideal concept of the One and Only Nexus: Jupiter incident were brewed and perfected during the development of Imperium Galactica in 1997 (platform: MS-DOS) then during the work on Imperium Galactica 2. Originally Imperium Galactica III. was meant to be Nexus 1. However changing publishers, chaotic legal disputes, including the developers had to break into their own then closed down offices and "steal" back their engine & their source code of the Nexus-1 prototype.. 

Can you imagine, if they fought this hard for their beloved brain-child, the developers surely must have been carrying the shining light of Nexus 1's ideas in their hearts! The main engine coder was a genius of his time and he spent day and night - basically obsessed - creating the beautiful 3D universe. The main designer also shared his obsession and at least one modeler who created the ships worked feverishly. They gave EVERYTHING. They did never quit.  Finally, through forming Mithis Entertainment and fighting for a deal with Vivendi and HD Interactive, plus perfecting their awesome 3D Black Sun Engine, they created the best game of their life! Since then they were NOT be able to create anything that comes even close to Nexus.

The reason for this is, i think, if you give "every part of your soul" to a project like Nexus 1, your soul-parts really go over into the Great Beyond. Life has a limited span, youthful energy and  human vitality slowly ebbs with age. The main programmer regrettably said to me 4 years after the completion of NEXUS 1, that his bright inventive thinking - characteristic of young energetic, intelligent coders - was then in the decline, on a downward arc. Just think about the energy they pumped into Nexus 1, if you are a developer, you will understand! For this same reason - i think - Mike Harrington said to Gabe Newell after creating the One and Only Half-Life 1 when Gabe asked him, to lets try to gather energy for creating Half-Life 2:
- Gabe, I can't do this again.

After finishing Nexus 1 in 2004 the original creators tried to pitch Nexus 2 to various publishers, to get big money for the required development. No publisher was interested. As the years passed, they GAVE UP HOPE.  Can you imagine, how the really bright, intelligent & creative developers must have felt, when they had to give up hope??  :~~-(((((

HD Publishing created a studio in 2006 with these guys, they completed: Joint Task Force
http://hardwired.hu/bigdl/3/10/Joint_Task_Force_PC_muvi_launchtrailer.wmv

In 2007 and 2008 i had the fortune to work with these Nexus 1 guys of exceptional talent. I realized then, what i hadn't seen in 2004 - as a journalist then visiting their studio, where i was shown a U-Boot underwater scene, made with a modified Black Sun 3D Engine, looking awesome. That was Battlestations: Midway.  These guys were the best. Still, they had unfortunately little experience for the stealth-based, cyberpunk third-person action shooter with elements of Saboteur and Splinter Cell, they tried to create and finish.
Here is a trailer from that cancelled game from 2008:
http://hardwired.hu/bigdl/3/10/muvi_black_noise_engine_movie.avi

The owner of the company lost a lot of money in the 2007-2008 world-wide economic crash and the studio was closed down, these guys were disbanded and each went to different studios, their experience of Nexus 1 dispersed, the core team shattered, never to be united __ever__ again.

Today, most of the brightest of these guys, creators of Nexus 1, gave up game development entirely, some went over to show presentation media creation and coding: where the big salary is.

Maybe now you understand, how much hope and chance the original financial backer of the company - the guys in the video of the Nexus 2 Kickstarter and of the earlier money-gathering campaigns - had to hire back the Creative Heroes of the Past.. .. .. to create again a new Nexus 2.. . .. .     :~~(((
Title: Re: Nexus 2 on Kickstarter! Help fund the most engaging tactical 3D space game ever!
Post by: TJJ on October 30, 2012, 06:21:23 AM
The one thing we can learn from this.... is that kicktraq is really good at plotting projections!

The final total of 24% was inside (but at the bottom of) the projection range 3 weeks before the end date.
Understandable really; projects that are unlikely to reach their targets will tend to trend toward the bottom of their projection range.