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Starsector => General Discussion => Topic started by: CrashToDesktop on March 13, 2012, 07:32:03 PM

Title: Hegemony Standard
Post by: CrashToDesktop on March 13, 2012, 07:32:03 PM
Eh, just threw this together this night.  Thought the Hegemony needed a good old-fashioned icon.  A cog with a fist inside sounded pretty good, represents the utter firepower and numbers the Hegemony holds within its fleets.
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9794/greycogwheellargemd.jpg)
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Nanostrike on March 13, 2012, 08:57:01 PM
Cool, but kinda generic.  No offense.  In fact, I think it's strikingly similar to the Red Faction logo:

(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIxnZ3dTehDoF03Wzhbq5UmNQi4VvBj7VPghRPg7THr_QIZVZ5XnN3_Pje)
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: kevindrosario on March 13, 2012, 09:29:40 PM
I think a clenched fist represents rebellion. The Hegemony seems like it's the authority, so IMO a clenched fist would not represent them very well.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: MidnightSun on March 13, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
I think a clenched fist represents rebellion. The Hegemony seems like it's the authority, so IMO a clenched fist would not represent them very well.

That was my first impression. This might be a good standard for some sort of independent pirate faction, but not as the Hegemony's emblem. After all, the fist is a symbolism for resistance and has "power-to-the-people" connotations. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_fist
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Thana on March 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Also, the connotations of violence in the raised fist make it a bit too blatant for an organisation like the Hegemony to adopt, it'd seem to me. You'd have to have a pretty damn bad lack of PR sense to create an organisation with the aim of bringing the Sector together as one entity and then give its symbol that adversarial a tone.

In that light, I'd expect the symbol to be something that evokes thoughts of space (as a thing that the Hegemony helps gulf for the members), protection (say, a shield) or some generally positive symbol of authority/nobility of spirit (swords, eagles, maybe stars, that kind of thing).

That's my 2 centi-credits, at least.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: MidnightSun on March 13, 2012, 11:39:08 PM
In that light, I'd expect the symbol to be something that evokes thoughts of space (as a thing that the Hegemony helps gulf for the members), protection (say, a shield) or some generally positive symbol of authority/nobility of spirit (swords, eagles, maybe stars, that kind of thing).

The Alliance Navy emblem comes to mind ;)
http://images.wikia.com/masseffect/images/6/6d/Alliance_Navy_seal.png
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: CrashToDesktop on March 14, 2012, 03:14:34 AM
Hmm....I'll try to work on it. XD
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Psygnosis on March 14, 2012, 04:57:31 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ch63VsVEvqxzbk5l735ffWuGo1_r2_500.jpg)

from the "comming together" i thought of the atari symbol
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Upgradecap on March 14, 2012, 05:30:11 AM
Eh, just threw this together this night.  Thought the Hegemony needed a good old-fashioned icon.  A cog with a fist inside sounded pretty good, represents the utter firepower and numbers the Hegemony holds within its fleets.
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9794/greycogwheellargemd.jpg)

I just want to steal the cog....... Can I for my own factions logo? ;D
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Temstar on March 14, 2012, 07:10:15 AM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/oavne9.jpg)
Apologies to Relic

What it all means:

Planet and moon - Terra and Luna, the homeworld of mankind and the seat of power for the Domain of Man. A reminder of the shared origin of mankind regardless of diaspora or belief.
Five stars - the five original core worlds of the Hegemony, with the biggest star representing Hasteus Prime, capital of the Hegemony
Wings - mankind's reach towards the stars, also Strike Force Pollux, the original military arm of the Hegemony. The wings flanking both Earth and the core worlds represent the protection offered by Hegemony to its citizens from the unbearable horrors that lurk amongst the stars.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Thana on March 14, 2012, 07:59:16 AM
...



. . .



I LOVE IT!  :o
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: icepick37 on March 14, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
would it look better flipped?  Seems like the wings should be going up and out, not...   down...

It looks brilliant, though.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: TheCornerBro on March 14, 2012, 11:03:05 AM
Yeah that would look even more awesome flipped :P
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: icepick37 on March 14, 2012, 11:13:21 AM
Wait no, we should say it's because the hegemony flies to hell and back, for you, Loyal citizen.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: CrashToDesktop on March 14, 2012, 11:45:01 AM
Eh, just threw this together this night.  Thought the Hegemony needed a good old-fashioned icon.  A cog with a fist inside sounded pretty good, represents the utter firepower and numbers the Hegemony holds within its fleets.
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9794/greycogwheellargemd.jpg)

I just want to steal the cog....... Can I for my own factions logo? ;D
Go ahead.  ;D
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: DM818 on March 14, 2012, 12:13:37 PM
It also, and I don't know if this is intentional somewhat resembles an onslaught class ship.  Unless it's just me. 
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: cardgame on March 14, 2012, 12:18:56 PM
I don't know... I personally would like to imagine the Hegemony as an authoritarian tyranny of an oligarchy or something like that, and the peaceful blue color just doesn't jive.

Other than that, it's a great job :)

Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: CrashToDesktop on March 14, 2012, 12:26:30 PM
(http://i40.tinypic.com/oavne9.jpg)
Apologies to Relic

What it all means:

Planet and moon - Terra and Luna, the homeworld of mankind and the seat of power for the Domain of Man. A reminder of the shared origin of mankind regardless of diaspora or belief.
Five stars - the five original core worlds of the Hegemony, with the biggest star representing Hasteus Prime, capital of the Hegemony
Wings - mankind's reach towards the stars, also Strike Force Pollux, the original military arm of the Hegemony. The wings flanking both Earth and the core worlds represent the protection offered by Hegemony to its citizens from the unbearable horrors that lurk amongst the stars.
Why do you have to beat me to the punch? ;)
It does look good, but a blue is too....weak.  The Hegemony have somewhat of an iron grip on the Corvus system, having a pretty large, erm, navy? in the system.  A rusty red or brown might make it a bit better.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Dreyven on March 14, 2012, 12:39:31 PM
It does look good, but a blue is too....weak.  The Hegemony have somewhat of an iron grip on the Corvus system, having a pretty large, erm, navy? in the system.  A rusty red or brown might make it a bit better.

(http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/d/de/TerranDominion_Logo2.jpg)


maybe someone with good photoshop skills can put the logo on a shield like this?
that would make it look perfect

(source: Starcraft, Logo of the Terran Dominion)
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Thana on March 14, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
I don't know... I personally would like to imagine the Hegemony as an authoritarian tyranny of an oligarchy or something like that, and the peaceful blue color just doesn't jive.

They don't actually sound quite that bad. Oh sure, they're no bunch of hippies, but in general it sounds to me like they're basically "military junta, but a moderately decent one." You may be right, though - maybe a darker blue or something? I still think that anything too blatantly hostile would ring trite.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: cardgame on March 14, 2012, 12:49:46 PM
Yeah, I think a dark red is definitely too cliche but a brown or grey or dark blue I can see working. The light blue, though... just no.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Temstar on March 14, 2012, 02:04:22 PM
It's easy to flip the picture but I thought about it while making it and decided on wings down. It's Hegemony's way of saying "We are the only legitimate government of the sector because we inherited the legacy of the Domain of Man. Our mandate for rule comes directly down from Old Earth itself".

Wings up would look too full of hope and it places the sector above Old Earth, which then doesn't give the same "came down from Domain to restore order to the sector" feel.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: UrbanGiraffe on March 14, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
It sounds like they have some pretty douchey policies regarding containment and 'cleansing' of cultists, though. Like, decimating systems they think susceptible to 'infestation' and such ('The Last Hurrah' is the mission I'm thinking of). So an undertone of brutality could be neat (however that would be translated graphically... I'm no artist).
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Temstar on March 15, 2012, 02:50:00 AM
The thing to remember is that authoritarian governments have this thing with dressing themselves up as champion and protector of the people. Hence you have ironic names like Democratic People's Republic of Korea and National Socialist German Workers' Party. This filters down to the symbols they choose for themselves and you won't see any overt symbols of oppression on their banners.

On a slightly different note, by popular demand, the same Hegemony symbol, now in GRIMDARK colours
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2vxmvrm.jpg)
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Jonlissla on March 15, 2012, 04:27:19 AM
I think a clenched fist represents rebellion. The Hegemony seems like it's the authority, so IMO a clenched fist would not represent them very well.

I strongly agree with this. I get the impression that they rule with an iron fist and are not willing to make compromises. A dictatorship with the mindset that if they were to fall from the throne the sector would result in chaos.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Doom101 on March 15, 2012, 10:16:27 AM
*jokingly* i got one for the TT :D

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_240/1203618784NHt5IF.jpg)

no i didn't make it, its a joke.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: megal00t on March 15, 2012, 10:29:51 AM
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5898/logovcy.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/logovcy.jpg/)

sooo how about this. i saw it on an old relic forum... might come in handy.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: icepick37 on March 15, 2012, 10:34:53 AM
Why are the wings upside down? Is that part of the symbolism?
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: megal00t on March 15, 2012, 10:47:56 AM
according to the homeworld lore and some of my knowledge. in the homeworld series the wings stand for embracing the planet that you love and you will not stop for anything in your way. this is the case in the homeworld series. ;D
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Upgradecap on March 15, 2012, 10:49:23 AM
according to the homeworld lore and some of my knowledge. in the homeworld series the wings stand for embracing the planet that you love and you will not stop for anything in your way. this is the case in the homeworld series. ;D

Yes, indeed. But maybe it just dosen't fit with the Hegemony, but hiigaran and hegemony are quite alike... or was it vaygr and hegemony? :D
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: CrashToDesktop on March 15, 2012, 12:03:22 PM
OK, thought I could improve on Temstar's design.  No offense, but I thought it need color. ;)
(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/92/1proto.jpg)
A nice metal grey did the trick.
Title: Re: Hegemony Standard
Post by: Flare on March 15, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
(http://www.wolfram.demon.co.uk/un_flag_2336.gif)
http://www.wolfram.demon.co.uk/rp_ch_om_2336_un.html

 :P

Kinda like a worn out, corrupted, ballooned, and complacent section of the UN that was cut off from the main body.