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Starsector => Suggestions => Topic started by: Avanitia on February 12, 2019, 09:57:42 AM

Title: [SPOILERS] - Make [REDACTED] stronger
Post by: Avanitia on February 12, 2019, 09:57:42 AM
FINAL SPOILER WARNING
If you haven't played 0.9 yet, go and play it or don't read further.  ;)


I've found the
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when 0.9 update first came out and destroyed it with this fleet.
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I wanted to recreate this feat again with this fleet.
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And I've done it, losing only 2 Buffaloes MkII during the fight. Had to repeat the fight 3 - 5 times I think.
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I've used exclusively vanilla content. You can see loadout of each ship here.
I know loadouts aren't the best you can get, but I had to work with what I was able to find and keep my fleet small.
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What's the point of all that, you may ask. Well, Guardian feels too weak. It's supposed to be a hard enemy which you have to defeat in order to gain access to Cryosleeper itself.
Guardian, as ship, is, to be quite honest overpowered.
It has built-in hullmod which reloads missiles, Advanced Targeting Core, exactly same loadout every time it appears, very good stats.
There's one problem though. It always fights alone, which allows player to take it down with small force composed of destroyers and frigates.

So I want to make a suggestion.
Buff the Guardian... but not directly.
I suggest giving escorts to Guardian, a fleet it will fight alongside with.
It should prevent situations like the one I show above, or at least them harder to achieve, while encounter should still feel impactful and memorable.

Thanks for your attention, godspeed Starfarer  ;)
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] - Make [REDACTED] stronger
Post by: DatonKallandor on February 12, 2019, 11:47:53 AM
Considering the reward is only useful if you get it early enough, making it harder to get is kind of pointless. It's not a end-of-game reward, why would the challenge to obtain it be end-of-game hard?
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] - Make [REDACTED] stronger
Post by: Plantissue on February 12, 2019, 12:46:47 PM
I'll be honest with you, your fleet is probably strong enough to take out any other battleship and the Guardian, like the Onslaught, when alone, is vulnerable to its rear. I don't think the Guardian is supposed to be a hard enemy. I think it's supposed to be like the rest of the automated defence ships; to be weaker than similar ships of its class.
Title: Re: [SPOILERS] - Make [REDACTED] stronger
Post by: Megas on February 12, 2019, 01:42:41 PM
Guardian, along with Radiant, already feels like a mod ship similar to Blackrock.  It can play coward a bit better than playable capitals.  It can already put up a fight that requires more than token firepower to deal with.

The special reward is only useful if you want to permanently settle the planet next to the sleeper.  So far, all sleepers I found were next to junk planets in fringe systems.