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Starsector => Bug Reports & Support => Topic started by: DeMatt on June 24, 2017, 11:45:21 PM

Title: [0.8.1a] Shepherds treat "Full Retreat" as "escort flagship"
Post by: DeMatt on June 24, 2017, 11:45:21 PM

I run a light survey fleet - a couple combat frigates, a couple Shepherds, and a Phaeton/Buffalo/Valkyrie for storage.  Occasionally, the lack of combat vessels means some ill-intentioned idiot decides to take me on, and incautious immobility on my part allows him to engage, which in turn means I choose to "Attempt to Disengage", and immediately hit "Full Retreat!" in the resultant combat.

The storage ships and regular combatants are perfectly okay with retreating, though they may not make it unscathed due to flanking frigates.

The Shepherds are not.

Near as I can tell, the command to "Full Retreat!" causes the Shepherds to want to escort my flagship with their Borers, so they stick around.  It's worth noting that NOT hitting "Full Retreat!" means they retreat normally.  I suspect that if other ships had hangars with interceptors, they'd also want to play fighter escort.

Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Shepherds treat "Full Retreat" as "escort flagship"
Post by: Alex on June 25, 2017, 06:59:15 AM

Thanks for the report - if it's vanilla, do you happen to have the savefile handy? Would make it a lot easier to reproduce.

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(If it's not vanilla, don't worry about it, I'll do some digging around.)

Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Shepherds treat "Full Retreat" as "escort flagship"
Post by: DeMatt on June 25, 2017, 11:40:37 AM

Quote from: Alex on June 25, 2017, 06:59:15 AM

Thanks for the report - if it's vanilla, do you happen to have the savefile handy? Would make it a lot easier to reproduce.

It's vanilla, 0.8.1a-RC8, Windows 7 if it matters.

I did some further testing - it happens in the simulator too, and it happens with any carrier:

• Choose a (presumably combative) flagship and start a simulation.
• Choose to deploy a carrier as ally.  No enemies are necessary.
• The carrier will stop behind you, launching its fighters, but not move elsewhere.  Presumably "where it entered the sim" is as good as anywhere else, due to the lack of enemies.
• Hit Tab, choose "Full Retreat!", and then select your flagship and turn off the autopilot.
• On returning to the action, the carrier will move up into the line-abreast escort position, instead of fleeing as the strategic map thinks it should.

It's worth noting that the carrier will retreat properly if, instead of selecting "Full Retreat!", you individually order it to "Retreat" or "Direct Retreat".

Lemme know if you still want a savefile.

Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Shepherds treat "Full Retreat" as "escort flagship"
Post by: Alex on June 25, 2017, 11:54:53 AM

Ah, gotcha - no need for the save then, I think I know why this is. Appreciate the details, that really helps.

Title: Re: [0.8.1a] Shepherds treat "Full Retreat" as "escort flagship"
Post by: Alex on June 26, 2017, 12:47:18 PM

Fixed! The issue was carrier "let's hide behind something nearby by escorting it" behavior overriding the full retreat order.